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  • Nov 30, 2009 - 11:42pm

    The old adage "don't believe everything you hear" applies here. Anybody can say anything on the internet.

     

    The few claims masquerading as verifiable facts in this article are quickly shown to be false. For example, the WebMD claim is false.

     

    http://www.webmd.com/parenting/twin-twin-transfusion-syndrome

     

    "Severe TTTS has a 60-100 percent likelihood of fetal or neonatal mortality rate."

     

    What is your source? Online sources make contradictory claims.

     

    "In severe cases, if TTTS is not treated, there is a 60 to 100% chance that both babies can die in utero."

     

    http://health.ucsd.edu/specialties/fetalsurgery/ttts/

     

    With certain treatment, at least one fetus will survive in 82 percent of cases.

     

    http://www.umm.edu/ttts/which_therapy.htm

     

    "If the twin-to-twin transfusion is mild, full recovery is expected for both babies. However, severe cases may result in the death of a twin."

     

    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001595.htm

     

    "The outlook for twins with TTTS was hopeless over 20 years ago, but now we have the ability to diagnose the condition early (with ultrasound scans) and implement treatments that will ultimately lead to most of the twins surviving and being healthy."

     

    http://www.tttsfoundation.org/help_during_pregnancy/summary.php

     

    "We were sent to one of the premier fetal care centers in the country and told our only hope for saving this pregnancy was to have a selective termination on the one of the babies, and hope the other twin would survive."

     

    To which "premier fetal care center" are you referring?

     

    "If I hadn’t had the termination, I would have buried two babies instead of only one."

     

    See the odds listed above.

     

    "The total bill from the fetal care center was just over $220,000."

     

    What does that claim have to do with Stupak-Pitts?

     

    "Why should I have to choose between having a life-saving procedure that will most likely put us into bankruptcy while at the same time forcing me to choose between the best interests of our much wanted unborn child versus the best interests of our other two children?"

     

    Does anyone understand this question? What are the two options to which she is referring? How does Stupak-Pitts relate to anything in the "question?"

     

    "...the devastating effects of the Stupak-Pitts Amendment."

     

    What devastating effects of the Stupak-Pitts Amendment? It would not outlaw the procedure you underwent. Nor would it prevent you from becoming insured for it.

     

    This article is just an attempt at contriving a compelling need for government-funded abortion. In reality, nearly all the abortion paid for by government would be purely elective and result because either a man chose to engage in sexual intercourse without being fully committed to being a good father and husband or a woman chose to engage in sexual intercourse without being fully committed to being a good mother and wife or both. Selfishness and irresponsibility are not health care and promoting them is not a good use of the nation's health care spending.

     

    www.abortiondiscussion.com

  • Nov 30, 2009 - 11:38pm

    concede the lack of organs etc?
     

    that's a photo of a blastocyst that hasn't even implanted into a uterus yet!!!

     Don't tell me,take it up with  the biologists who own this site.

     

     

     

    The only difference between the American anti-abortion movement and the Taliban is about 8,000 miles.

    Dr Warren Hern, MD

  • Nov 30, 2009 - 11:10pm

    That was indeed a photo of a zygote. THIS is a photo of a blastocyst.

    http://www.drizzle.com/~mdavis/uploaded_images/jj_blastocyst-703867.jpg

    And there's an excellent description of the week-long process of implantation here:

    http://www.embryology.ch/anglais/gnidation/resumenidation01.html

  • Nov 30, 2009 - 10:45pm

    Coleen-that's a photo of a blastocyst that hasn't even implanted into a uterus yet!!!
    "Well behaved women seldom make history."-Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

  • Nov 30, 2009 - 10:32pm

    It's a very young person, Colleen!!!

  • Nov 30, 2009 - 10:29pm

    They would have been happier in around the third century, I think.

  • Nov 30, 2009 - 10:29pm

    Barring some sortof medical condition/emergency

    Which is it?  Medical condition or emergency?  Does the woman actually have to be going to die in the next 10 minutes in order to 'deserve' an abortion?  Or can reasonable medical certainty about what will happen in the easily foreseeable future allow her to qualify?

    People everywhere require resources that other people want, thus, being dependent on the woman's body does not negate the fetus' right to life.

    Which of those other people do you feel are entitled to the "resources that other people want"?  Do you think children who require an organ transplant or a blood marrow donation to save their lives are entitled to them even if the person who is a good match objects that they don't want to donate?  Should we pass laws making giving up a kidney mandatory because that child also has a "right to life"?

     

  • Nov 30, 2009 - 10:23pm

    "some reasonable facsimile thereof" is a COMMON phrase

    Yes, and in this context it is meaningless because a zygote or blastocyst has nothing resembling an organ system, developing or not.

    Here's a photo of a zygote. See? No organ system, developing or not.

     

     

    The only difference between the American anti-abortion movement and the Taliban is about 8,000 miles.

    Dr Warren Hern, MD

  • Nov 30, 2009 - 10:19pm

    But I thought the whole POINT of the ProLife movement was to take us all back to the 70's?  The 1870's, that is.

  • Nov 30, 2009 - 10:18pm

    It may be a 'common phrase', but it still doesn't make sense in the context in which you used it.  Inspection of a zygote or blastocyst does not reveal any reasonably "exact copy" of limbs or organs nor does it show that they are 'likely to develop'.  In fact, they more often than not do not develop and instead the blastocyst or zygote is flushed from the body.