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Obama and the Acceptable Abortion

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Aw, Barry, say it ain’t so

Strang: Based on emails we received, another issue of deep importance to our readers is a candidate’s stance on abortion. We largely know your platform, but there seems to be some real confusion about your position on third-trimester and partial-birth abortions. Can you clarify your stance for us?

Obama: I absolutely can, so please don’t believe the emails. I have repeatedly said that I think it’s entirely appropriate for states to restrict or even prohibit late-term abortions as long as there is a strict, well-defined exception for the health of the mother. Now, I don’t think that “mental distress” qualifies as the health of the mother. I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems to the mother carrying that child to term. Otherwise, as long as there is such a medical exception in place, I think we can prohibit late-term abortions.


That quote is from here. And while that piece is certainly the most offensive, I’m also not thrilled with his answer here:

Strang: You’ve said you’re personally against abortion and would like to see a reduction in the number of abortions under your administration. So, as president, how would do you propose accomplishing that?

Obama: I think we know that abortions rise when unwanted pregnancies rise. So, if we are continuing what has been a promising trend in the reduction of teen pregnancies, through education and abstinence education giving good information to teenagers. That is important—emphasizing the sacredness of sexual behavior to our children. I think that’s something that we can encourage. I think encouraging adoptions in a significant way. I think the proper role of government. So there are ways that we can make a difference, and those are going to be things I focus on when I am president.

I love Obama. I find him incredibly inspiring. I’ve had a lot of silly, idealistic little hopes pinned on him. I so badly want him to be a candidate who stands up for progressive values without apology. Instead, it looks like he’s taking the traditional Democratic route of moving towards the center and trying to please everyone.

This is why Democrats are losing the abortion-rights battle: We’re adopting the right-wing frame and rhetoric, and speaking in their terms. The question “How can we reduce the abortion rate?” is an easy gimme for any pro-choice candidate. You say: “Education, health care and contraception access are the most effective ways to decrease the need for abortion. Abstinence-only sex education has been a colossal failure, and around the world we can see that the abortion rate is lowest in countries with comprehensive sex ed programs, wide-spread access to contraception, health care for all, and a strong social safety net. We know what works; but it’s Republicans who continuously block legislation that would decrease the abortion rate. Democrats in Congress have repeatedly tried to increase contraception access for all women, and have tried to promote initiatives that would make it easier for women to choose to have children — initiatives like aid to low-income families, subsidized day-care programs, and early childhood education. It is the Democratic party that has taken important steps to actually decrease the abortion rate, while the supposedly “pro-life” Republicans have put barriers in the way of pregnancy prevention, then limited abortion access, and then made life more difficult for women and their children. It seems that “pro-life” Republicans only care about life up until the moment of birth — and they have taken no steps to actually decrease the need for abortion. By contrast, my administration will take a comprehensive, truly life-affirming view: We will support women, men and children at all stages of life, and we will give Americans as many options as possible to make the best decisions for themselves and their families.”

Not hard. Instead, Obama used talking points that I would expect to hear from John McCain: Abstinence education. The sacredness of sexual behavior. Adoption.

I realize he’s talking to a Christian magazine, and so he needs to frame the issue in a way that resonates with Christian readers. But “Christian” or even “pro-life” does not equal “Republican,” or “pro-life” in the way that mainstream anti-choice organizations and politicians are “pro-life.” A whole lot of self-identified pro-life people don’t actually want to see women dying of dangerous illegal abortions; a lot of pro-life people realize that criminalizing the procedure isn’t the answer, and that instead we should decrease the need for abortion through common-sense measures like education, contraception, economic justice and universal health care. That’s a big block of voters; I’d like to hear Obama talk to them — in part because the Republican party claims to speak for them, but doesn’t actually represent their interests.

And I’d like to see Obama stand up for his pro-choice base. The issue of late-term abortions is a tricky one, because anti-choicers trot it out as if huge numbers of women were waiting until the eighth month of pregnancy to terminate. In reality, third-trimester abortions count for about one-half of one percent of all abortions. It’s already nearly impossible to obtain a late-term abortion in much of the country, and it is actually impossible to obtain one for purely elective purposes. Women who terminate pregnancies in the third trimester aren’t doing it for kicks; they’re doing it because they have some sort of serious health problem that requires it, or there’s a fetal abnormality.

Obama did say he supports late-term abortion rights in the case of a physical medical problem, but he took out mental health as a legitimate concern. That’s a talking point that you hear a lot from anti-choicers: That mental health is a “loophole” through which any undeserving baby-carrier could legitimately terminate her pregnancy.

But mental health underlies many of actual reasons women have late-term abortions. Take severe fetal abnormalities — where a wanted pregnancy goes wrong, and the problem isn’t discovered until relatively late. In many situations — anencephaly, for example — carrying the pregnancy to term might not be any more dangerous than carrying a healthy fetus to term. Pregnancy and childbirth always come with serious risks, and it’s often impossible to know which risks will arise, but many fetal abnormalities don’t pose the kind of physical harm to the pregnant woman that would seem to pass anti-choice (and now, Obama) muster. (To be clear, many fetal abnormalities do pose significant health risks — it’s just not the rule. Which is precisely why this issue should be evaluated case-by-case between a woman and her doctor, and politicians should butt out). So even though many fetal abnormalities don’t threaten the pregnant woman’s health or life, most people seem to agree that it’s cruel to force a woman to give birth to a baby that cannot possibly survive (if it’s even born alive, which many anencephalic fetuses aren’t). But if a doomed pregnancy doesn’t threaten a pregnant woman’s physical health, why would we allow her to terminate it?

Because, obviously, it threatens her mental health in no small way. Being forced to carry a wanted but doomed pregnancy, and being forced to go through childbirth to produce a dead or dying baby, is understandably deeply emotionally traumatic. We want to give women the option to avoid that kind of mental trauma because we recognize that physical harm is not the only harm that matters.

And the psychological harm of being forced to give birth against your will to a baby that will not survive is not the only kind of psychological harm that matters. It is impossible to account for all the circumstances under which mental issues may seriously impair the ability of a pregnant woman to function, and may be just as threatening as physical issues. People face diverse circumstances, and when it comes to health and medical care, sweeping rules can cause widespread harm. Which is why when it comes to issues like abortion and other medical procedures, we should err on the side of providing care, not limiting it, and we should allow individual circumstances to be best evaluated by the people living those circumstances and the doctors treating them.

That is the position that we expect pro-choice politicians to stake out. Either Obama caved to anti-choicers on this one, or he really believes it and isn’t as strongly pro-choice as many of us thought. I’m not sure which is worse.

This post was originally published at Feministe.


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12 comments

I think the problem with Obama here is that to be strongly pro-choice is to potentially lose some votes, votes that are very valuable in a close race such as this. I think most agree that McCain would be the worst choice for women's rights, but Obama had better not keep his pro-choice stance on the down-low past the election date, or we're all screwed either way.

Submitted by TheNerd on July 7, 2008 - 2:31pm.
Dear TheNerd, Thanks for your comment and while I appreciate your perspective politically, I think what Jill does brilliantly in this piece is to demonstrate how simple it is to be pro-choice, pro-family, and not only mouth the words, but demonstrate real conviction. The problem with trying to dance around the issue and be all things to all people, is that people can see right through that. It is instructive to me, and no great surprise as a man, that the politicians who best articulate progressive values on the abortion issue are women: Sen. Clinton, Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (KS), former Lt. Gov. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend (MD) ... and that two of three of those women are also Catholic speaks volumes about an American value of education, prevention and choice. Certainly there are others, but Sen. Obama and all men would be well advised to follow the lead of women when discussing these issues. There is no need to run from progressive values, there is only a need to articulate them clearly, and with conviction. Voters can respect that, even if some disagree.


Be the change you seek,

Scott Swenson, Editor

Submitted by Scott Swenson, RH Reality Check on July 7, 2008 - 3:36pm.

John Kerry lost in 2004 because he kept being all things to all people, he danced around the abortion issue by saying the same thing Obama did, "I'm personally against abortion but..." I had hoped that the democrats would have learned that being a spineless candidate gets you no where and that the 2008 candidate would learn from the mistakes of 2004. Unfortunately it looks like Obama's people are falling directly into the same trap Kerry did. People vote for candidates who stand up for their positions, even if they don't totally agree with them. They don't trust people who switch their positions to appease one group and then have another position the next day for the next group. Unless they turn this around quick Obama is going to suffer the same fate Kerry did and we are going to be living in a very scary world for the next 4 years with a McCain presidency.

Submitted by JAM on July 8, 2008 - 11:18am.

"John Kerry lost in 2004 because he kept being all things to all people"
NO, he lost because he is a traitor, and a liar. He is a real piece of work.
We are all a bit stupider after listening to him..

Submitted by Anonymous on August 21, 2008 - 4:49pm.

As a Clinton voter, it is hard for me to look at the Obama campaign over recent weeks and not say "I told you so." I like Obama personally and will vote for him in November, but I have never fully bought his promise to be "a new kind of politician." He continually bashed Senator Clinton on the campaign trail for her refusal to tell Democrats exactly what they wanted to hear, for her political pragmatism and her belief in "the art of the possible." It's not quite as inspiring, but a lot more honest. Either I was cynical, or Obama's young supporters were naive - and I think that he is beginning prove the latter.

I am disturbed by his comments on abortion not because of the obvious pandering to evangelicals, but because I don't know how far he is willing to go to get their votes, either now or when looking ahead to reelections.

I wonder if Barack's idea of "unity" will look a lot more like "compromise."

Submitted by Anonymous on July 10, 2008 - 10:41am.

I am in full agreement with Jill - and wish Obama had said he was, too.

In saying that he is pro-life, he should also say that he wants to see every child born to parents who want the child and think they can give that child a good life.

To that end, he will promote birth control. Insurance companies would be required to cover birth control, and women under a certain level of income could receive birth control through some sort of government aid.

Should an unfortunate condition arise where a doctor and patient reach the conclusion that an abortion is necessary, the abortion should proceed - covered by insurance or government aid.

In addition, realistic sexual education would be required in all schools.

Pro-life people should be required to contribute or help Planned Parenthood and other agencies promoting a truly pro-life agenda. When in the company of a pro-life person, I frequently ask what they are doing to deter abortions by pushing a truly pro-life agenda.

How much more pro-life can one get?

I have never had a forced abortion, although I did have a couple of miscarriages. I had some sense of how a woman feels when losing a baby, no matter what the reason. After the second miscarriage I remember having to force myself to visit a friend with a new baby. That was nothing to having to see a new baby after a forced abortion.

I am of an age when abstinence was about the only option one had to avoid pregnancy - and no one thought about sex education. I grew up on a farm, and actually did learn a great deal about sex as one on a farm would.

When in college, other girls and occasional boys would ask me questions about the physical aspects of sex. I could usually answer the questions accurately. It would rather frequently happen that I ended up giving what amounted to sex lectures to 10 - 20 kids in a room.

I have frequently wondered whether these parents who do not want their kids to have accurate sex education in schools would like to know that an 18 - 20-year old girl from the farm was teaching sex education to their kids. Don't forget, kids want to know things and will ask. Will those asked have accurate knowledge?

Submitted by frmrrepub on July 10, 2008 - 12:48pm.

This was a terrific example of how we should respond to the opposition. Rather than doing the arm-twisting that Kerry did when asked a mean-spirited question about abortion, the candidate should discuss the real ins-and-outs that for whatever reason people don't want to discuss. The United States govt. shouldn't provide abortions? Mention the cases of rape in the military and the women soldiers who are not even told they can pay for their own. I'm not sure why we don't like to discuss the messy cases -- those cases that make a lie out of politicians and judges, who have the delusion that they can write a water-tight exception rule.

Submitted by Anonymous on July 10, 2008 - 3:34pm.

"We" aren't adopting right-wing frames. Obama is. And. We told you so.

Submitted by Emma on July 23, 2008 - 1:20pm.

since when is not wanting to KILL a "late-term" baby a bad thing??

You Nazi jerks are voting based on who will commit infanticide? Are you crazy? Your biggest political issue is ABORTION? I mean.. WOW

We are not talking about a one-cell embryo here. We are talking about a FETUS. A "Late Term" baby who can survive OUTSIDE the womb. How do you kill it? Do you just stab it's heart? Crush it's skull? And WHO is the one with the radical political views? How do you sleep at night?

Obama AND Hillary are communists, and so are you! "Progressives".... give me a break. A killer is a killer, and a Communist is a Communist. Wake up

Submitted by Anonymous on August 21, 2008 - 4:46pm.

since when is not wanting to KILL a "late-term" baby a bad thing??

You jerks are voting based on who will commit infanticide? Are you crazy? Your biggest political issue is ABORTION? I mean.. WOW

We are not talking about a one-cell embryo here. We are talking about a FETUS. A "Late Term" baby who can survive OUTSIDE the womb. How do you kill it? Do you just stab it's heart? Crush it's skull? And WHO is the one with the radical political views? How do you sleep at night?

Obama AND Hillary are communists, and so are you! "Progressives".... give me a break. A killer is a killer, and a Communist is a Communist. Wake up
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Please anonymous, there's no need to call pro choicers communists. I also know that abortion is wrong, but if you want to tell them that, don't insult and attack them. talk about the subject of abortion, not about how stupid they and other pro-aborts are.

Submitted by pro woman pro life on August 21, 2008 - 6:22pm.

  "Late Term" baby who can survive OUTSIDE the womb

Late term abortion is done due to fetal anomaly or the life/health of the pregnant woman.  Your inability to imagine what these women go thru appears to be par for the course for the anti-abortion advocates.  I'll bet the experiences of these women would put an end to that vile piffle that you spew.  Unless, of course, you happen to be a sociopath...

Submitted by Mellankelly1 on August 21, 2008 - 6:58pm.

what is the color of the sky in the parallel universe you inhabit? Go crack a dictionary and read the true definition of "communist". Neither Obama nor Clinton fit it the description. Unless you were reading Conserveapedia?
A late term abortion is only resorted to if an OB/GYN determines continuing the pregnancy is a threat to the woman's life, health or fertility. OR if the fetus has a condition which is "incompatible with life". An example is the fetus's brain has failed to develop and there is nothing in the skull but fluid.
Focussing solely on the fetus is a distraction. The true issue is the oppostion to reproductive rights of a vocal, well organized and well financed third party that calls itself "pro life".
"Pro life" see no problem with violating a woman's right to bodily autonomy, due process and the right to decide when to have children. "Prolife" has gone even further over the line by opposing hormonal birth control, and emergency contraception. "Pro life" cares little for life after birth, if national prolife organizations really did, "pro life" would instruct their Republican servants (sorry, Congress critters) not to oppose bills that benefit born children, like SCHIP.
I must make it clear not all pro lifers are like this, some really do walk the walk in caring about the welfare of already born children, wide access to contraception. They oppose the death penalty and lie-based invasions of other nations. They also want more comphrehensive sex ed to reduce the rate of unwanted pregnancies.

Submitted by MargaretSangerWasFramed! on August 21, 2008 - 7:21pm.

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