'Pro-Lifers' Plan National Protest of Contraception
Cristina Page, Birthcontrolwatch.org on May 5, 2008 - 6:32am
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Tired of the same-old lame protests outside of abortion clinics? Looking to impose your religious beliefs in other people's lives in a new and exciting way? The pro-life movement would like to expand your horizons. On June 7th, the anniversary of the Supreme Court decision that gave married people the right to use contraception, the American Life League, along with Pro-Life Wisconsin and Pharmacists for Life International Associate groups want you to join them in protesting in front of facilities that distribute birth control products. The national day against contraception, Protest the Pill Day '08: The Pill Kills Babies, was started to convince the American people of a simple and imaginative idea: attempting to prevent abortion is abortion too. These arguments have been confounded by diabolical scientists and experts who insistently point out there's no evidence to support that the birth control pill works the way these groups claim. As we all know, however, if ideology waited for science to prove scientific points, our ancestors would have never have spent all those years wandering the then-flat earth.
Q: The Supreme Court has ruled that it's my right to privacy - who do you think you are to say otherwise? A: On June 7, 1965, the U.S. Supreme Court handed down the Griswold v. Connecticut decision. The Supreme Court justices first presumed that previous Court decisions dealing with a citizen's right to liberty and security that prohibited invasion of one's home and acquisition of evidence that might later be used to convict him of a crime also addressed privacy within marriage. In fact, the justices argued, "The concept of liberty is not so restricted... it embraces the right of marital privacy though that right is not mentioned explicitly [emphasis added] in the Constitution" and is based on "specific guarantees in the Bill of Rights [which] have penumbras, formed by emanations from those guarantees that help give them life and substance." This confusing language, which has no relationship whatsoever to what the Founding Fathers intended, gave married women permission to use the birth control pill. The Supreme Court literally created the "right to privacy" out of thin air. We now know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that not only did the Supreme Court literally make up the right that you claim gives you permission to use birth control, but the most popular form of birth control, the pill, can kill innocent preborn children. If there is a chance that human beings are going to be murdered, I am going to do everything in my power to help prevent that from happening. If you knew there was a chance that someone might poison your neighbor, don't you think you would try to notify your neighbor and do as much as you could to help save a life? And before you despair that your right to privacy is being lost, take comfort in the knowledge that once we all finally live in a country where ideology is valued over evidence and our government is run by and for those who subscribe, or succumb, to the exciting agenda of these groups...privacy will no longer be needed. Your point of view and way of life will, conveniently, be decided for you. So what are you waiting for?! Sign up now!
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I hope people who walk by and see those protesters just laugh in their faces. Maybe this will allow some who don't normally pay attention to the typical "pro-life" type to see them for what they are really trying to do (controlling female sexuality). Seems the author only has poor wit and bad humor to address this important issue. Now if only the facts and science backed up his religion of contraception, maybe he'd be on to something. Figures, just like a man! Ideology over evidence? What's the evidence, Cristina? You're talking about a lack of proof from those claiming the birth control pill destroys an embryo. Heck. Where's the proof that it DOESN'T prevent implantation? Heck. Even the packaging says it can work that way. And whoever died NOT taking the pill? It makes more sense to say, "I don't know if it destroys an embryo so I'm not taking it" than to say, "I don't know if it destroys an embryo so I'll take it anyway." At least there's consistency on the pro-life side. Dear Cranky, Here's the evidence you seek just two clicks away in our Fact v. Fiction section found in the navigation bar at the top of the front page. As for "consistency" on the anti-contraception side of the issue, I applaud your personal decision to follow your beliefs consistently, no matter what the evidence suggests. I'm just curious why you think the 99% of Americans who have chosen to use contraception at some point in their lives should also have to follow your beliefs? Are you also anti-pluralism? Anti-freedom?
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Whether implanted or not implanted the embryo still remains an embryo and that is what the pro-life side defends. So why does the pro-choice side always get hung up on ACOG's definition of pregnancy? The pro-life side says abortion is the destruction of human life in the womb; and all the pro-choice side can say is that it isn't a human life at all unless it's attached. Denial is a powerful thing. The pill works by preventing ovulation. It works like a condom! Condoms work by preventing sperm from meeting eggs, and the pill just works the opposite, by preventing eggs from coming out to meet sperm. Just. Like. A. Condom.
Of course, you're against condoms, too. How are they murder? Please explain, because while you had to make up lies to explain the pill, the lies to explain condoms will be even more fun.
Fun fact: The Ten Commandments don't say anything about birth control, but they do forbid lying. As far as I'm concerned, the ACOG definition of pregnancy has very little to do with the issue. Really, to me the issue isn't *babies* or embryos or implantation, the issue is who gets to decide what happens inside and to my body. Either I do (the pro-choice position) or someone else does (the "pro-life" position). Personally, I vote for me and I will defend my own bodily autonomy and that of every other woman. Plus, what Amanda said. Another thing that really burns me up is the pharmacists with this belief. How DARE them take this job! If it's against their beliefs, then they have no business having this job. And what about all the kids that need adopting? Who cares about them? Let's just have more! Funny how, once they're out of the sacred womb, they're forgotten by all those sanctimonious, controlling people. Another thing to think about, if you think sloughing off a fertilized egg is like the worst thing in the world: Half of fertilized eggs are rejected by the body anyway.
Which means that a woman who doesn't use the pill is killing a lot more "babies" than a woman who does use the pill.
Think about it. I am on the pill. I fertilize 0 eggs a year, because I don't ovulate. A woman who uses no contraception is probably seeing 1-2 fertilized eggs die, and a miscarriage or two for every baby she brings to term.
Who's got the higher amount of blood on her hands? Not I, with a death toll at 0 because I don't even provide the raw materials to fertilize an egg that could die.
If "pro-lifers" really think fertilized eggs and embryos are the equivalent of babies, then they should be against women going off the pill at all, because of the amount of carnage it takes to get to a healthy newborn. Amanda, you haven't lost your touch. I say we counter-protest the protesters for promoting an increase in the senseless slaughter of fertilized eggs! Clearly the only way to ensure that no fertilized egg is lost is to prevent ovulation. Well, that and abstinance. And menopause. But seriously, I do wish more people knew the fact you bring up - that roughly half of all fertilized eggs are sloughed off regardless, without you even knowing it. Rather changes the framing of early termination when you realize that it happens quite regularly if you are fertile, sexually active and not using contraception. There is no way to determine if an embryo exists pre-implantation if it came to be by ordinary methods. A woman can not have a duty to refrain from actions that would prevent implantation if she were unaware that there was something that needs to implant. You pose the question, "whoever died from not taking the pill?" An answer to that question would be mothers all over the world who die during childbirth. Maternal mortality is a huge issue of international health, and family planning and birth spacing are two key means of addressing it (along with a host of other things, such as skilled birth attendants). All over the world - in the U.S. or in India or in Niger or in Poland - mothers, children, and families are healthier when family sizes remain relatively small, and when parents are able to plan the size of their families. Family planning and access to contraception are critical for improving the health of women and children worldwide. Also, have you taken a look at this lately? http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html Since you seem to be so anti-contraception, what are your plans for ensuring the health, safety, education, and general well-being of the 196,325,000 to 324,325,000 babies that would have been born were there no contraception available to women between 1973-2003? (Numbers are from www.thepillkills.com.) What programs do you have in mind to make sure that our natural and manmade environments can support this type of population growth to provide clean water, adequate sanitation, adequate housing, etc. for all people? The talking points are pretty shocking. I mean, really - their claims that the birth control is dangerous to your health and the claims they list! I've never seen just outright ignorance in my life. The vast majority of the ills they say are caused by the pill are actually helped by the pill. Considering how many American women are on the pill, the anti-reproductive rights crowd has got an uphill battle on their hands. If every woman on a pill is like a crazy serial killer, why do they care about our health? I've been on the pill for 9 years total, and since they seem to think that not ovulating=murder, I've not ovulated 108 times, thereby murdering 108 babies by not ovulating. I've also murdered dozens of babies by simply not having sex that month and sloughing off an unfertilized egg, and let's not talk about all the babies I killed before I hit puberty, just by walking around not being pregnant because I was incapable of it. And menopause looms in the future! Decades of baby-murdering through not having eggs to fertilize.
Women are born murderers in this worldview. We can't even help it. So why the fakey concern about our health? ;) Cristina, Thanks so much for informing us about this event. I can't wait to participate! Finally- a group who is not afraid to stand up for truth. Praise God for American Life League!
Ha ha, that's so hilarious. Please, tell me another one. I'm laughing so hard because you managed to trump us crazy feminazis by taking our event and using it against us.
Oh, no, we're promoting protests we disagree with. Whatever will we do? These nut jobs want nothing more to enslave women to their reporductive organs. Having children is a CHOICE in a marriage. Birth control can help regulate a woman's cycle. There is no proof as to when it causes "embryos" get eliminated. I used to use B/C - stopped because I am thankfully no longer ovalating. I also had a thermal ablation. Now the next thing you know this group will want to prevent women from having that. Women's monthly is meant to be painful - women should just "read the bible" and deal with it - yeah deal with those hormonal changes. Trying dealin with having IBS at the same time and almost passing out on the toilet. I'll stand up to these folks in a heart beat - I'll dare them to give the numbers that are slothed off - and demand on a woman is to know she has done so. These self-righteous sanctamoneous fools don't care about women all they care about is the unborn or those who have yet to come into existance. These people are nuts, they just want to control women and enslave them to their fertility, and bring back the 40's where women had no choices but to be enslaved to men and their sexuality. I say throw eggs in their faces if they protest near a facility that provides birth control, because they are so ridiculous. Why doesn't crancky catholic protest the Catholic priests molesting innocent born children? It is my body and I will use birth control if I want or need to, and I will abort if I cannot support a child if I need to. (but, since I have always used birth control, I have never needed to abort) We must fight these anti-women cretins at every turn. If they were true to their "religion" and didn't use birth control themselves, they would have so many children they wouldn't have the time or energy to try to ruin choice and birth control for us. It will never work, as over 90% of the women in this country use some kind of artificial birth control. These people are real time and energy wasters, why don't they help the children in Dafur or children who are in poverty in this country? I suspect because most are too ugly to get laid or that they are so controlled and brainwashed by their religion that they want to take it out on the women who have and enjoy sex. What a pathetic bunch these people are. Seriously, anti-choicers, keep it up. Show up at the protests, run around calling condoms murder. We're sick to death of having to convince people that you really, truly don't care about babies so much as getting women under the boot. So please, do our work for us. Perhaps the anti-choicers are merely victims of the abstinence-only education policy that leaves so many ignorant of how contraception works. After all, condoms do kill -- if you pull them over your head. In "Denial is indeed a powerful thing" above, Amanda Marcotte makes a point that I think is not stressed nearly enough. When the anti-choice people, most of whom call themselves Christians, tell their favorite lies, they violate the Ninth Commandment, in which god disapproves of bearing false witness against one's neighbor. If calling your neighbor a murderer, when she is not, is not bearing false witness, I don't know what is. We should be asking the anti-choicers loudly and repeatedly why this doesn't bother them. Would you care to respond to this, Cranky Catholic? Calling someone a murderer is not bearing false witness. That's just name calling. If you make the false claim that you personally witnessed your neighbor beat her children when in fact she did no such thing... that is bearing false witness. And anyone who calls a contracepting woman a murderer is just as much of an idiot as someone who equates an ovum with an embryo. O.K., Cranky Catholic, I admit your response surprised me. BTW, many people do equate any contraception with abortion, and therefore with murder. I am glad to hear that you are not one of them. The American Life League, Pro-Life Wisconsin, and Pharmacists For Life International,et al have lost their minds. This stunt won't accomplish much, except lose them a few more friends. We pro-lifers do not say that barrier methods (e.g., male and female condoms) cause abortions; we say that abortifacient contraceptives have a method to destroy embryos, often by preventing implantation. We don't care if implantation prevention is "a tertiary function" of the pill; it is a deliberate way to stop the development of a baby. Life begins at fertilization, Really? says who? and just what do you mean by "life"? I'm not being facetious, btw, it's just that you're making some very extreme statements based on terms which we do not all agree about (if the link was supposed to take me somehwere that provided an answer - it didn't. Are you sure you linked to the place you meant?) And if life does, indeed, begin at fertilization, then as Amanda mentioned above - Mother Nature (or God, take your pick), is a much greater murderer than any pill-poppin' feminazi could ever hope to be, seeing as about 50% of fertilized eggs naturally fail to implant I ask you how does a woman know she MAY have eliminated a fertilized egg? What IF the B/C prevents ovalation? There are a number that do. Prove to me when such things happen - did science invent a "conception detector"? Isn't it better to eliminate a zygote then to have a woman go get an abortion later on? You need pro-fetus folks need to get a life and keep your noses out of women's life's. Life does not begin at conception. Life began millions of years ago. It has been continuing since then in a never ending cycle. Eggs and Sperm are alive. Science tells us that but you ignore that. PREGNANCY begins at implantation. Before then it's just another bunch of cells floating around doing mitosis. Learn some Biology already. There is a huge moral difference between taking an action that might prevent the implantation of an embryo whose existence is not known and cutting up a fetus in utero. Even if a duty to allow implantation exists, this duty would begin at the moment of fertilization, and as such would be irrelevant to anything that happened before fertilization. This is from the talking points (emphasis added): The birth control pill and similar birth control products work in a woman’s body in one of three ways: It can prevent ovulation and it can obstruct sperm from reaching the egg (prevent fertilization) by thickening the cervical mucus. However, if both of these methods fail and a new human person is created, the pill and other contraceptives can stop a tiny child’s implantation in his/her mother’s womb . . . I understand the stance that if there's any chance at all that an egg can get through and get fertilized and then get flushed out, then one must oppose the pill (I disagree, but I understand it). However, I'm curious, given that my understanding has always been that the basic function of the pill is to prevent ovulation: how large a possibility is it that a sperm and an egg may meet when a woman is on a standard (e.g. not progesterone only) birth control pill? Again, I appreciate that the moral stance is black and white on that fact, but I'm curious about the science behind it, particularly given that pro-life folks are trying to argue that they have science on their side. Also, doesn't the body not begin to think it's pregnant until after the fertilized egg has implanted? So, wouldn't that mean that even if an egg gets fertilized and then flushed out, actual pregnancy is still being prevented? Even if it's true that a tertiary function of the pill may keep an egg from implanting, the very low odds of such an event pale in comparison to the vast number of pregnancies that are naturally aborted. So using the pill undenably makes natural abortion far, far less likely, as 15-20% fertilized eggs never implant--so not fertilizing an egg avoids the approximately one in five "abortions" that anti-pill advocates claim to wish to prevent. estimated to spontaneously abort before 12 weeks, to the number of fertilized eggs estimated not to implant and the final percentage is very high. Backing up a bit to what was said earlier. We know a huamn life begins at fertilization,that is a given,even though pro lifers present it as some sort of earthshaking fact. But the PREGNANCY doesn't start till implantation, the medical experts at the American College of Ob/Gyns says so. The blastocyst can't develope into a zygote, the zygote into an embryo, the embryo into a fetus until implantation occurs. Do the pro lifers hear me now? that some national anti-contraceptive groups have repackaged Natural Family Planning (NFP) as "organic sex". *chuckle* I would like to see an intelligent response from the "life begins at conception" crowd to the issue of ectopic pregnancies. Isn't your position that the woman must die I'm still waiting for the national day for pro-lifers adopting children who need loving homes... why aren't you people caring for the children who are already here and don't have families? Maybe if there were less children being abused by their families and/or in foster care, I would be more open to your message. Well, finally they're coming out and showing their true colors. It's not about saving fetuses, it's about controlling female reproduction and, by extension, women's lives. The basis of their argument is religious. Never mind the actual science of how various methods of contraception work. Never mind all that. These skirmishes over women's bodies have religion at their core and I, for one - and as a Christian - am tired of it. I say, and am comfortable asserting that my *faith* agrees with me, that 'life' happens after implantation when my body can recognize that it is, indeed, pregnant. My faith supports the use of contraception. These anti-sex fundamentalists' religious beliefs say otherwise. So. Who's to say which religious belief is better? Who's to say which religious belief should be legislated and applied to everyone, regardless of (or absent of) their own religious belief? They claim the Supreme Court 'made up' privacy. Well, the Constitution also 'made up' the separation of church and state and that's pretty important, because that's how we do things around here. You know. In America. I have no issues with people being privately ignorant. You want to think that zygotes are baby homunculi? Fine. Fill *your* quiver, baby. But when folks start preaching to me and saying *my* religious beliefs should conform to theirs, have mercy, then it makes this Church Gal just plain pissed off. My recommendation to all those bible-thumping, sex-hating misogynists out there: Read the Constitution and keep your hands off my ovaries AND my bible. I wrote ALL a letter, a copy of which you can read at my website. Here's what I wrote: My whole marriage I had believed that the pill was creating unity, bringing my husband and I closer together, freeing us from fear of another child we cannot afford. You have shown me a new way of thinking, about how the pill is destrying our sexual relationship. Thank you, ALL. You have showed me that true unity can only be experienced outside the realm of contraception. From this day forward, I commit myself to sex the way you say it should be or no sex at all. My husband is going to miss having intercourse, but that's the way it should be. To which they replied: I might point out to you that the most telling statement in your email is this one: My whole marriage I had believed that the pill was creating unity, bringing my husband and I closer together, freeing us from fear of another child we cannot afford. First and foremost, while you may have thought that your fears were being allayed by using the pill, chances are a child or perhaps many children died because of the actions of the pill. This is a very hard truth to have to live with, I know and I speak from personal experience as I once was ignorant about these matters as well and now mourn the fact that my husband and I could have had many more children, each of whom we will not now know because of what we did, even though we never knew how these things worked. The sadness is still there. At any rate, you might try bring unity and joy to your marriage by learning natural methods for spacing children. After all, children are gifts from God, and we have learned, as have many others, that the more we trust God and welcome His gift of a child, the happier a marriage will be. Try it. Thanks again for your email. Judie Brown I tell you, I can't make this stuff up. First and foremost, while you may have thought that your fears were being allayed by using the pill, chances are a child or perhaps many children died because of the actions of the pill. This is a very hard truth to have to live with, I know and I speak from personal experience as I once was ignorant about these matters as well and now mourn the fact that my husband and I could have had many more children, each of whom we will not now know because of what we did, even though we never knew how these things worked. The sadness is still there. The relationship between mother and child starts with pregnancy, and pregnancy starts at implantation. Implantation, while not the beginning of life, begins the relationship between mother and child. Before implantation, the mother would have no idea that the child exists if conception happened by ordinary methods. If the mother knows not the existence of then child, then the mother has no duty to provide a womb. As I stated in another e-mail....get your own life, you have 10 children and worry about supporting them without help. Look around, see the homeless, the abused the unwanted children that have been born. Why don't you worry about taking care of them and let people make there own decisions about their own life and what would be best for them. I'm glad I live in Quebec. None of that BS here. Every woman here has the right to choose what's right for her. No one has the right to invade our private lives and discuss our choices. A sane province! Post new comment |
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