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RealTime: Planned Parenthood Under Attack in Virginia

Vivian Greentree on February 28, 2008 - 2:02pm
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Last night, Virginia State Senator Ken Cuccinelli (R-37) introduced an amendment to the biennium budget to defund Planned Parenthood, which passed by a vote of 20-20, with Lt. Governor Bolling casting the tie-breaking vote. This bill would strip Planned Parenthood affiliates in Virginia from any state funding for STI screening and treatment, annual exams, cancer screening and treatment, and much more.

I am deeply disappointed that Senate members and Lt. Governor Bolling voted to restrict funding for the preventative health care and education provided by Planned Parenthood. I am even more disappointed that Democrat Charles Cogan (D-Prince William) was the "Yay" vote that caused the tie which made Bolling's vote necessary.

No one does more to prevent unintended pregnancy in Virginia than Planned Parenthood. And, even though fundies like Cuccinelli ignore it, the overwhelming majority of our services are aimed at preventing unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections. If the legislators who voted for this amendment truly wanted to reduce unintended pregnancy and the need for abortion, they would stand behind Planned Parenthood's prevention health care services.

I guess I'm not surprised as much as disappointed. While this type of ideological maneuvering is what the GOPers thrive on, I'm still continually amazed at how they subjugate women's health to their own version of pseudo-morality. Would that such moral bastions support, instead of oppose, social program funding that supports women and children that are already here. It seems that it will be up to Gov. Kaine to use a line-item veto, which some have already stated is a probability. I have a positive feeling on that aspect because one of the articles did quote his communication director as saying, "…some of the state aid for Planned Parenthood goes for programs that it operates at juvenile correction facilities to teach pregnancy prevention."

Luckily, we have an active volunteer network in Virginia and have been able to quickly spread this message that invites supporters to write Letters to the Editors to their local papers outlining why they are outraged at Cuccinelli’s last minute attempt to cut funding from the very organization whose message is built upon prevention of the very thing that he says he wants to end. Be looking in your own local papers for letters. Or, if you feel so inclined, please write your own. We must remain ever vigilant of those who would seek limit our reproductive rights; they are certainly ever vigilant of any chance to undermine women’s health.

Check out Feministing's take.


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19 comments

In her article, Vivian states, "I'm still continually amazed at how they subjugate women's health to their own version of pseudo-morality. Would that such moral bastions support, instead of oppose, social program funding that supports women and children that are already here."

Two concerns are evident to me in this statement:
1) a lack of understanding that a child's life begins at conception (which has been show medically and scientifically thanks to advancement in technology); Having said that, unborn children ARE 'already here'.
2) the fact that millions of women who undergo abortions suffer tremendous psychological depression and trauma (and commonly other medical problems) as a result of abortion.

While current law forbids family planning agencies in the United States from using Title X funds to perform abortions, funds channeled to abortion-providing clinics inevitably underwrite abortions because they are used to offset operational expenses, subsequently freeing up dollars for abortions.

Taxpayer funds should never support an organization that provides services that take and harm life, regardless of whatever other services they provide. If Planned Parenthood completely ceased all abortions, I would GLADlLY support efforts to fund other work done to benefit the health of the woman and child. Until then, my efforts will go toward funding any and all other organizations that truly focus on the woman and her health without compromising them with abortion practices.

Submitted by Cynthia on February 29, 2008 - 12:01pm.

The Family Foundation?

Please. Your information, which you are trying so hard to proclaim as fact, is inaccurate. Life does not begin at conception and the FDA's approval of hormonal birth control supports this position. Pregnancy is a result of implantation, not just fertilization. If personhood was conferred at "conception" then what about people using hormonal forms of birth control that prevent implantation, should fertilization occur? No, wait. Don't tell me - you think women shouldn't use hormonal forms of birth control either.

I can tell from your statements that you truly haven't done your research on this topic, so please, don't comment unless you can back up your "feelings" with statistics and literature. I have a feeling we'd all be waiting for a long time for that to happen though.

Submitted by Vivian on February 29, 2008 - 12:15pm.

Vivian,
You just don't get it. You should be praising Senator Chuck Colgan as I am for making a principled stand (and broadening the Democrat party rather than keeping it narrow as you would like), but then again, I am sure you don't care much for the junior U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania, Mr. Casey, either.

Once a life is formed in the womb at conception, it is a moral obligation to try and protect that life. Although the ultra liberal lefties, yourself included of course, have been losing the Pro-Life argument incrementally and slowly ever since the misguided decision of Roe v. Wade, you all just don't get that the American people are not in favor of abortion on demand.

Some in the Virginia Senate like Whipple, Howell, Saslaw and others are so militant in their pro-abortion stances that they only see red. They try to block any reasonable measures to ensure a woman is fully informed before she takes a life. Understanding on your part would be true justice.

So maybe you should try to back up your liberal "feelings" with statistics for once.

Submitted by Anonymous on February 29, 2008 - 4:09pm.

Go sell crazy somewhere else, ok? We are all stocked up here.

Statistics, the literature, studies, scholarly articles, and comparative studies all support Planned Parenthood's message of prevention and education. You wanna compare notes on comprehensive sex education versus abstinence-only sex education? Or talk about what "informed consent" means state to state? Did you know that at least three states give inaccurate medical information and tell women there is a link between abortion and breast cancer? And even more than that inaccurately portray the risks of abortion (like your fundie friend who posted before you). The sad thing is you can't see past the plank in your own eye (yes, we radical liberals can be spiritual as well) enough to do any research that might undermine your own ignorance.

And again, your definition of conception doesn't fit any medical or healthcare standards...but again, facts don't seem to matter much to you.

Submitted by Vivian on February 29, 2008 - 5:04pm.

Go sell crazy somewhere else, ok? We are all stocked up here.

Ha,ha! That is brilliant. The latest study on each state's "informed" consent laws can be found here:http://www.guttmacher.org/media/nr/2007/11/13/index.html

The study finds that a percentage of the requirements of some states don't counsel as much as they seek to influence women.

The responses of the prolife commenters is typical of my experience on one discussion board. If the medical/scientific facts don't back them up, some pro lifers either ignore them or claim the sources are "biased towards abortion".

Submitted by ruthless on February 29, 2008 - 11:31pm.

Anonymous, until every woman decides not to terminate, I'm afraid you won't be persuaded or understand that women are indeed informed. Why oh why is a woman making this decision thought to be uninformed or deceived?! Women are perfectly capable of making this personal decision for themselves in consultation with the person or people of their choice. They don't need you or others like you to "help" them. As if a woman who finds herself unexpectedly pregnant, (or who even suspects she might be), and doesn't want to be, doesn't begin thinking immediately of what she is going to do.
And I'm sorry Cynthia, to be the one to tell you this, but your tax dollars have been used to kill innocent people since day one of the Iraq War.

Submitted by Lisa on February 29, 2008 - 4:27pm.

Just as a random musing insert: if taking a morning-after pill prevents fertilization, and so does abstinence, and preventing fertilization is supposedly a very bad thing because it has the possibility of becoming a somebody, consider this: every egg you ever had has the possibility to become a somebody. Just having a period every month is a bad thing because you didn't let that egg get fertilized and have a kid with it.
It's hard to understand why anyone would want that.
Another one: have you considered how many sperm die every time you have sex? They all could have been babies, too. Are you saying that's bad, too?

Submitted by Anonymous on March 2, 2008 - 10:09pm.

Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
And if a sperm gets wasted
God gets quite irate.

Think of all the wasted potential babies everytime a man "spanks the monkey". No politician has attempted to pass legislation against that. Yet.

Submitted by ruthless on March 3, 2008 - 11:02am.

Why can't we accept abortion for what it is? It is an unwillingness to accept responsibility for a CHOICE ALREADY MADE. Whenever a woman willingly engages in vaginal intercourse, there is a possibility that she will become pregnant. If a pregnancy is "unwanted," then there is one surefire way to make certain that it does not occur - don't have sex. People who advocate for abortion rights want to have their cake and eat it too.
Allow me to make an analogy. Let's say that I want to skydive. I love the thrill and exhiliration of falling weightless through the sky. I relish the rush of the wind in my face. However, I also don't want an "unwanted parachute failure." No matter how careful I am, there is always a possibility that my parachute will fail. If it does, I have no CHOICE but to accept the consequences of my decision to skydive and the risk that I undertook in doing so. The great thing about abortion is that it requires no annoying personal accountability for decisions. I get to be as careless as I want, and when my "parachute" fails, I have a magic button that I can push that will put me back on that plane, having never made the jump.
As strongly as a person may advocate for a woman's right to choose, why does no one advocate for a woman's responsibility for the consequences of her choice? I think we can all agree that no pregnancy at all is preferable to an "unwanted pregnancy" followed by an abortion. The difference is that some of us are willing to be responsible enough to recognize that if we don't want the risk, we shouldn't engage in the risky behavior.
I add here a caveat: Notice that above I talked about a woman who WILLINGLY engages in vaginal intercourse. Cases where women are the victims of rape or incest, as well as situations where a pregnancy jeapordizes the life of the mother, present more complicated moral issues.

Submitted by BrandiAnn on March 3, 2008 - 9:11pm.

Where do you people come up with these analogies?

I'm just waiting for the "keep your legs closed" phrase to come out now.

Let's not make another analogy - let's discuss this issue with the relevant facts, ok?

Nothing about abortion is "easy". Not the decision, not the ability to get one, not the amount of money it takes, the emotions involved...nothing.

Our young women are facing a very hostile and ambiguous society that is sending them very conflicting messages on all these topics that are intertwined. The least we could do individually is to be a little less judgemental in our personal lives as to what we consider to be others' failings.

Women who are already mothers often cite the care and responsibility of their existing children, wanting to act in their best interest, and women without children yet want the conditions to be right when they do have children. The abortion rate among women living below the federal poverty level is more than four times higher than among women from middle-income and affluent households. Historically women, whether you agree with them or not, have overwhelmingly been recorded as saying they feel it is more responsible to terminate a pregnancy than to have a child whose health and welfare is in question.

It certainly isn't only about a woman being "selfish". That is ridiculous.

I could go on, but really what is the point? Even the way you presented your argument speaks worlds about the reality you live in. So I would just add one more quote from one of my favorite pro-choice doctors, who said:

"For without the ability to control the if, when and with whom to bear children, no woman can truly call herself free."

Submitted by Vivian on March 4, 2008 - 9:18am.

I've run into a lot from pro lifers. And I always have the strongest urge to ask them, "What is the color of the sky in your parallel world?"

Submitted by ruthless on March 4, 2008 - 2:19pm.

Congratulations. You managed to churn out five paragraphs without even addressing my argument. But you did throw up a really nice red herring that the ONLY responsible option a woman who finds herself in an unwanted pregnancy has is to abort. What about adoption?
I also appreciate the label "you people." When making an argument without substance, it's always most effective when you can create an "us vs. them" mentality. So Bravo! But my favorite part was how, rather than trying to overcome my argument with logic and reason, you simply said that it made it clear what "reality I live in." Really, you're scoring all kinds of points in this one.
For the record, I never said that an abortion was easy. Quite to the contrary. Situations where abortion is merited present strong moral dilemmas and great self-searching. However, situations where a person irresponsibly and willingly engages in vaginal intercourse and then aborts the fetus because a pregnancy is too much of an inconvenience fall EXACTLY within the analogy I made.
If you actually have an answer to my argument, I would love to hear it, otherwise, feel free to just admit that your viewpoint has less to do with logic and reason and more to do with "freedom to choose" and "freedom from consequences."

Submitted by BrandiAnn on March 4, 2008 - 7:37pm.

"I never said that an abortion was easy"

So why do you belittle the burden of pregnancy by calling it an "inconvenience:

"willingly engages in vaginal intercourse and then aborts the fetus because a pregnancy is too much of an inconvenience"

Yes it is a sin for a woman to willingly engage in sex. Better to be raped.

Are you truly against consenting adults having sex? 

I hope that you at least support birth control. 

 

 

Submitted by Harry834 on March 4, 2008 - 8:07pm.

These responses are entirely non sequitur. Is anyone actually interested in engaging in civil discourse, or am I to receive nothing but vitriol and illogical ranting in response to my comments?
For the record:
1) I am not against consenting adults having sex. If anything I said made you think that was the case, you need to slow down, take a deep breath, count to ten, and then read carefully.
2) I am not certain what it means to "support birth control." I do believe that birth control is a responsible choice when a person who has decided to engage in sexual intercourse is unprepared to be a parent. However, even the use of birth control is not 100%, so those engaging in the behavior must be prepared to accept the consequences if their "parachute doesn't open."
3) The Sin/Rape comment had nothing to do with this conversation. If you can't engage in civil discourse, I am not interested in talking to you.

Submitted by BrandiAnn on March 4, 2008 - 8:35pm.

So I guess skydivers have no back up parachute allowed – the skydiver has to accept the consequences of the initial failure. And if even better backup technology comes available, it should be denied too. Next time you take on other risks such as driving, understand that you are taking the consequences of getting in an accident and please don’t sue or seek damages – accept the very well known and unmistakable consequences or stay off the road.

A woman loosing her life due to pregnancy is a consequence of vaginal sex. If you needed an abortion to save your life, another more consistent abortion opponent has every right to oppose it – don’t have sex if you don’t want to die and please don’t go running to a doctor to relieve yourself of responsibility in the situation you created….no backup parachute allowed.

Also, anyone has the right to oppose and deny you prenatal care in pregnancy. Deal with the consequences of vaginal sex – don’t try to override them with a doctors assistance….you should have no more right to have your cake and eat it too simply because you don’t agree with certain consequences of sex and pregnancy.

Submitted by Janine on March 4, 2008 - 9:56pm.

my apologies for the sin/rape comment. Yes, that was overkill.

but you did say:

"situations where a person irresponsibly and willingly engages in vaginal intercourse and then aborts the fetus because a pregnancy is too much of an inconvenience fall EXACTLY within the analogy I made."

Of all the women who have abortions, I'm not sure who your above statement excludes. Is there a way to "responsibly and willingly" engage in sexual intercourse. We both agree birth control is a good option for prevention. I guess our disagreement is instances where a woman does get pregnant.

It sounds like you'd have more respect for a pregnant woman who chose not to abort. Accepting the consequences? I guess your entitled to your opinion. But the thing is that whether or not our opinions our satisfied, the woman is still left with difficult choices, and a difficult circumstance. Calling pregnancy an "inconvenience" truly belittles the possibility of undergoing the burden of life-altering body endurance for nine months, career disruption, and a life sacrified to be a mother.

Now, you may at this point say, "she should have thought of that before", but what good is that advice after the event? She can't go back and reverse time. But she still has to make choices in the here and now. You can scold her if you want, but I don't think your scolding is a reason for her to carry a fetus, and be a mother, if she is unwilling and unable.

 

Listen, having an unwanted pregnancy, is - for both men and women, often but not always a lapse in judgment. We don't ask that you reward our lapses, but we do ask that you stop condemning us as we commit the the responsible act of getting back on our feet again. You've made mistakes. You've had to bounce back. So do we.

In that process, we need control of our destiny. That is why we should have all options available: abortion, adoption, or parenting. As you said, these are not easy decisions to make, and no one should make them for us. But government is doing just that through its anti-abortion laws.

How a couple chooses to bounce back from an unintended pregnancy is something they need to figure out on their own. And doctors shouldn't be hand-tied in helping them. And women shouldn't have decisions about their body be taken from them.

Submitted by Harry834 on March 4, 2008 - 9:58pm.

How is taking the life of your child ever a solution? I am pro choice, after your child is growing in your body, you have the choice if you will raise her or someone else will raise her.
I have 9 kids, my body, my choice. I had one at 18, I am glad I did not kill her, it changed my life to mother her, but in the best way possible. Pro-deathers are not telling the truth, I know many, many mothers who ended their child's lives, none of them ever got over it.
Rape victims who ended their child's lives said they got over the rape, they never got over the cold blooded murder of their kids. Other rape victims said they are glad something wonderful, their child, came out of a hateful crime. Don't take my word for it, they wrote a book. I've been raped, I don't say this carelessly, it devastated me. But abortion isn't the solution.
I know many single mothers, they have it tough, but not near as tough as the married, but killed their kids to be "happy" ones do. Post Abortion syndrome is very real.
A friend stood outside planned parenthood, she said she witnessed many mothers go in and end their children's lives, some with the fathers, some with their parents, and NONE of them looked happy or relieved when they came out, they all looked devastated. The sad thing is, they will continue to look that way for many, many years.
How is abortion a good choice? I don't see it.
If the funding is cut, maybe it will force us all to come up with solutions we can ALL live with.
By the way, my daughter recently married, she had her first kiss on her wedding day, I know this because they agreed to be chaparoned on every single date. Abstinance is possible, they did not suffer for it, in fact they are two of happiest people I know.
Fetus is latin for baby.

Submitted by Anonymous on March 5, 2008 - 6:22pm.

" How is abortion a good choice? I don't see it."

See these women:

http://www.imnotsorry.net/newstories16.htm

 

 

Submitted by Harry834 on March 5, 2008 - 7:10pm.

 Post Abortion syndrome is very real.

According to the American Medical Association and the American Psychological Association, "post abortion syndrome" does not exist.  In fact, in a commentary in the Journal of the American Medical Association, Nada Stotland, M.D., former president of the Association of Women Psychiatrists, stated:

"Significant psychiatric sequelae after abortion are rare, as documented in numerous methodologically sound prospective studies in the United States and in European countries. Comprehensive reviews of this literature have recently been performed and confirm this conclusion. The incidence of diagnosed psychiatric illness and hospitalization is considerably lower following abortion than following childbirth...Significant psychiatric illness following abortion occurs most commonly in women who were psychiatrically ill before pregnancy, in those who decided to undergo abortion under external pressure, and in those who underwent abortion in aversive circumstances, for example, abandonment."

Rape victims who ended their child's lives said they got over the rape, they never got over the cold blooded murder of their kids

Please bear in mind that each individual has their own unique experience with abortion.  I ended a pregnancy that was the result of a rape almost 13 years ago and never once have I felt anything but a deep sense of relief for having done it.  I already had a son at the time and since I've had two more children and I've never regretted any of my choices.  You must know that simply because one person regrets a choice that they've made it is certainly in no way indicative of how others should or will feel.

How is abortion a good choice? I don't see it.

 Abortion is a good choice for a woman who doesn't want to continue a pregnancy... how do you not see that?

How is taking the life of your child ever a solution? I am pro choice, after your child is growing in your body, you have the choice if you will raise her or someone else will raise her.

Nobody is taking the life of their "child" when they terminate a pregnancy.  Taking the life of your child will land you in jail (or a mental institution at the very least).  I get that you are all for compulsory maternity and it makes me sick.

Submitted by Mellankelly1 on March 5, 2008 - 7:24pm.