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Republican Debate Features Reagan - err, Romney

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Mitt Romney has Ronald Reagan written all over him.

More than once, Mitt Romney invoked Ronald Reagan's name in the Iowa Republican debate this afternoon.

Defending his switch from a pro-choice politician while running for Governor of Massachusetts to his all-or-nothing anti-choice position now, Romney told viewers:

"I am pro-life now and I won't apologize for this. Reagan, Hyde...followed this."

Mitt Romney has carved out his niche. Talking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer in November of this year, Romney remarked:

"I must admit that I find the vision and the direction that Ronald Reagan laid out for this country to be very powerful and very compelling."

Romney is positioning himself as the clear heir to a Republican throne gone bad via Bush, Jr. As Scott Lemeiux on TAPPED puts it today, ""Yes, try to imagine a world in which a Republican administration substantially increased government spending, spent spectacular amounts of money to invade a country that posed no threat to the United States, packed the federal courts with statist reactionaries, and repeatedly supported arbitrary executive power. That kind of Republican Party sure would be useless!"

And so we have today's announcement that the National Review has endorsed Romney, because of their belief that Romney is the most conservative viable candidate who will unite the "conservative coalition" whereas Giuliani and Huckabee would "pull apart the coalition from opposite ends: Giuliani alienating the social conservatives, and Huckabee the economic (and foreign-policy) conservatives."

Romney seemed to answer the siren song from The National Review telling viewers today that, "It's important that this next president be a conservative - not just a fiscal or social conservative but both. We're not going to strengthen America unless we can pull together a coalition of conservatives - social, economic and on defense. These three groups allowed our party to get elected over last several decades..."

Clearly, Romney's remarks were aimed straight for Giuliani and Huckabee. Huckabee turned off the more conservative elements on stage by stating that he'd encourage the inclusion of music and art in all public school's curricula and derided Congress' "platinum" health care package, while Giuliani told the audience that while he opposes abortion personally, he believes that the government should "leave the decision to a woman and her conscience" though he advocates for "limitations on abortion."

But maybe the National Review spoke too soon?

When asked a question about how he would lower the national debt, Mitt said: "We can eliminate the things that aren't critical. We have thirteen different programs to prevent teenage pregnancy. They're obviously not working very well. We could probably cut it down to one or two that are making a difference."

I'm not sure The National Review would like where he's going with that but it is clear that abstinence-only programs are not doing much for our rising teen birth rates or sexually transmitted infection rates among young people in this country.

In fact, Romney's timing is perfect.

A recently released report called Emerging Answers: Research Findings on Programs to Reduce Teen Pregnancy by Douglas Kirby, Ph.D., offers the latest information on what programs work to prevent teen pregnancy - and which ones don't.

Meanwhile, ten of our nation's leading scientists and academics, all of whom have conducted extensive research on sexuality education in this country, implored Congress last month to discontinue federal funding for abstinence-only programs, among the "thirteen different programs" that are doing nothing to stem teenage pregnancy or STI rates.

However, Romney's Iowa campaign office told me he's not making any global statement on the inefficacy of abstinence-only programs. Tim Albrecht, Romney's Iowa Press Secretary, says:

"This was an example of an area where Romney sees we can plunge the federal government of redundant programs. If we have thirteen programs all related to reducing teen pregnancy, why not take the best of two or three of them and use those elements that are most effective?"

When pressed, Tim told me that Romney was not commenting on whether abstinence-only programs were more or less effective than comprehensive sexuality education.

Romney did cover the requisite republican bases telling viewers that, in his first year as president, he would, "Establish a strategy to overwhelm the global jihad, end illegal immigration, end growth in federal spending, reduce tax spending, and work towards health insurance for every citizen in America..."

Alan Keyes provided the afternoon's eerie entertainment ("Join my political army at alankeyes.com!") and Huckabee continued to rely heavily on his identity as a person-of-faith in crafting his policy and strategy ("You go back to the founding fathers who said we are all created equal, endowed with our creator.").

The debate effectively pushed John McCain, Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter, Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo into the shadows as the spotlight focused on Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani.

And although Alan Keyes seemed to hold the title today for most-statements-made-on-a-debate-stage-in-support-of-the-unborn, the Republican field is pretty well split over pro-life endorsements:

Giuliani's got Pat Robertson's endorsement, Huckabee is the proud owner of the National Institute of Family and Life Advocates (NIFLA) endorsement, and Fred Thompson's acquired the National Right to Life's endorsement.

This debate pushed Mitt Romney into the forefront of a pack of interesting Republicans all vying not to be the next George W. Bush.


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15 comments

WHAT AN IMPRESSIVE INDIVIDUAL. HE DEFINATETLY WON TODAYS DEBATE. I WATCHED IT AND HE IS REALLY GETTING MY THOUGHTFUL ATTENTION.

Submitted by JOHN on December 12, 2007 - 8:32pm.

Romney is a phony. He is so plastic his hair would probably break in the wind. He flip flops every time he changes stages and has more moves than Elvis.

Submitted by Anonymous on December 12, 2007 - 8:42pm.

I'm guessing we were watching different debates. Either that, or saying "Reagan" somehow makes Romney Reaganesque. Perhaps you are unaware that Ron Paul was one of only FOUR Republicans that supported Reagan from the beginning. Read a book for goodness sake!

Submitted by Louie on December 12, 2007 - 8:57pm.

Is that the best you got? His hair looks plastic, so I am not going to vote for him? Listen to what he says. He is the only who has any experience cleaning up messes, he has rescued multiple companies; Dominoes, Bain capital, Staples, Sports Authority, etc. etc. etc. He knows business, he knows law, he knows economics, he has morals!!! He knows how to work with people from both sides, and is able to make compromises to get the best thing done for America. Fact of the matter is you can't be bullheaded about having everything your way...3 branches of the govt. won't work. As for flip-flopper...how can you call him a flip-flopper, when you got people like huckabee and clinton who have changed their opinions in just the last year, not to mention that Romney has effectively been pro life (politically, always was personally) since he became governor in 2002. Huckabee wanted to lift trade embargoes from Cuba in 2006 (wrote a letter to Bush asking for it), now he has seen the light, he so says...ask any American on whether they think that we should work Castro, and any Cuban-American for that matter. Hillary changed her position on licenses for illegal immigrants in the space of 2 minutes, and then a week later emphatically changed it again...saying NO!!! to drivers licences for illegals...talk about jaded.

Submitted by Anonymous on December 12, 2007 - 9:14pm.

Romney sounds more like George W. Bush rather than Reagan. I don't believe a word Romney says. He is filled with contradictions. Even in the debate he mentioned how he ran as pro-life then somehow, miraculously became pro-life. I am not saying this transformation did not happen. But it seems suspicious that he ran as pro-choice then when the first bill about abortion came, he sided with pro-life. This is the story he told today.

Romney is a dummy. Do not vote for this guy.

If you are looking into relating candidates to historical conservatives, Barry Goldwater Jr. endorses Ron Paul. There is a credible story you can write on.

Submitted by Clif on December 12, 2007 - 9:32pm.

Ron Paul more of a libertarian than anything. Isolationist to boot. You are not going to solve our problems by isolating America.
If he gets elected we better have a good vice predident because he's either going to die of old age or forget he won the election...not like he would in the first place.

Oh and about Mitt Romney. He still continues to amaze me as well.

Submitted by Anonymous on December 12, 2007 - 10:54pm.

I'm not even sure if Romney is human--at least I always knew where Reagan stood.

So did Ron Paul, who was one of Reagan's earliest backers in 1976. They were personal friends. Reagan said of Paul, "We need to keep him fighting for a strong national defense."

So if I want another Ronald Reagan, and I do, I will look to Ronald Paul.

Submitted by JP on December 13, 2007 - 12:57am.

Amie Newman,

With all due respect, Ms. Newman. You obviously did not read or review Emerging Answers 2007. This report is full of errors. The report cites comprehensive sex programs as providing "strong evidence for behavior impact" while in fact, the majority have absolutely no impact whatsover on behavior outcomes. Look on page 23 of the "proven successful" programs, and you will find 7 comprehensive programs that are listed as effective. When you examine the evaluations of these programs, not even half are effective.

It is very sad that liberal pundits like yourself accept criticism of abstinence-only and praise for comprehensive sex programs as gospel truth in these reports, without actually examining the facts.

Shame on you for being so ignorant! Perhaps you all should do your homework before citing erroneous studies!

Submitted by Anonymous on December 13, 2007 - 9:57am.

The report is one the most thorough documents we have yet examining the impact of various programs on young people's decision making and behaviour around sex and sexuality. Your opinion that the report is erroneous is not backed up by, well, facts; it is not confirmed by the leading scientists and academics in the United States; representatives in Congress; or most of the top sexual and reproductive health advocacy organizations in this country.

The programs on page 23 of the report are listed as having positive impacts on sexual behavior, teen pregnancy or STD rates. And you yourself say that seven of them are proven effective! And yet we have absolutely NO dedicated federal funding for comprehensive sexuality education. The report is clearly listing these programs as programs with a great deal of promise. This is the most comprehensive resource thus far for advocates who work hard in the field every day to help young people. One of the crucial resources needed to ensure success for ANY program is money. Comprehensive sexuality education programs that show promise are not funded properly while failed, unscientific programs suck billions of tax payer dollars dry.

For the last six years the Bush administration has dumped not millions but billions of dollars into not just unproven but FAILED abstinence-only programs. If sexuality education that took a more comprehensive approach to healthy sexuality were funded appropriately by the federal government we would not be seeing increasing teen birth rates, increasing HIV rates, increasing STD rates.

The report clearly states that: "preventing STDs requires a more complex approach. In addition to promoting abstinence and condom use, programs to prevent STDs can emphasize reducing the number of sexual partners, avoiding concurrent sexual partners (and people who have concurrent partners), increasing the number of weeks or months between sexual partners, testing for and treatment of STDs, vaccination against HPV (the human papillomavirus) and hepatitis B, and male circumcision. Whenever appropriate, programs to prevent pregnancy and programs to prevent STDs should focus on preventing both outcomes. After all, concerns about both pregnancy and STD motivate teens to avoid sexual risk. Communities need to send clear, consistent messages about appropriate sexual behavior." Clearly we are talking about a consistent and respectful focus on abstinence and sexuality education that provides information on contraception to prevent against both pregnancy and STDs as well as healthy sexuality."

I thank you for your comment.

Submitted by Amie Newman, RH Reality Check on December 13, 2007 - 2:31pm.

Amie,

I agree, the report is very thorough, and in many places, I agree with what it says. However, that being said, you just can't ignore the parts of this document that are simply untrue. Regarding page 23 and the proven effective programs, you misquoted me. I said that NOT all seven of these programs have positive behavior impacts. In fact, only half of these programs have positive behavior impacts. If you don't believe me, go to the journals and look for yourself. I work in sexual health research field, and reviewed these evaluations myself.

Now to address your other arguments. First of all, you make a fallicious claim that my "opinion" is not backed up by the leading sexual health scientists and experts. These experts don't know my opinion yet, because it hasn't been published. Secondly, the reproductive health advocacy organizations are not the only ones who are educated and capable of looking at valid scientific research. There are many knowledgeable advocates for abstinence education that are credible and legitimate. Thirdly, you state that there are no funding sources for comprehensive education. Nothing could be further from the truth! In fact, comprehensive sexual education and prevention programs in many forms outnumber abstinence education funding 12 to 1! Just because the official funding stream isn't called "comprehensive sex ed" does not mean that the government is funding programs that are very similar, under a different name. Fourth, there are many abstinence education programs that have successful evaluations, and have positive behavior impacts. In fact, the latest will be released to the public in January in the American Journal of Public Health (evaluation of a Virginia program). I agree that preventing pregnancy and STDs is complex and often a tall order. However, prevention is more than just contraception instruction, which is the majority of what comprehensive sex programs teach. Real prevention programs seek to prevent emotional and psychological damage that early sex has proven to be linked to. Also, contraception-based and comprehensive sex ed programs mislead teens into thinking that if they wear a condom, that they are protected against the many STDs that are spread through skin-to-skin contact, such as Chlamydia, Ghonnorhea, and other STIs. By the way, a condom doesn't protect against Herpes (and there is no cure for Herpes).

Finally, I do acknowledge that successful abstinence education evaluations typically have not employed the best experimental designs, but it hardly fair to expect best practices in research for government programs that are not even a decade old. These procedures and methods take years to refine. Comprehensive sex advocates like yourself are completely biased from ab-ed from the start, and you have been seeking to detroy it since its conception. By criticizing a few early studies that are not favorable to ab-ed, you are unfairly lambasting programs that haven't been given enough time to prove their worth. If that's not enough, the government has been funding contraception instruction for thirty years. Where has it gotten us? Higher STD rates, more HIV/AIDS cases, more unplanned pregnancy, and a continuation of the breakdown of the family. It wasn't until abstinence-education came on the scene that we actually saw sexual activity among youth drop from 53% to 46%.

Submitted by Anonymous on December 14, 2007 - 8:26pm.

You make a lot of claims but have very little to back up your thoughts on this issue. You state that "comprehensive sexuality education advocates" are biased from ab-ed from the start, and you have been seeking to destroy it since its inception" and yet you are somehow not able to see that, in fact, it is the opposite. Those who pound home that abstinence-ONLY programs are the only way to go have completely blinded themselves to effective, scientifically-backed, fact-based methods of education. Again, comprehensive sexuality education does not teach that young people should not abstain from sex - and I should know. I coordinated and gave presentations to high schools around my city on sexuality education - effective presentations are NOT about how to have sex anywhere and everywhere - they are about teaching young people how to embody healthy sexuality and empowering them with knowledge and information. Abstinence is a crucial focus of any healthy sexuality program. However, comprehensive sexuality advocates base their curricula on evidence-based information that shows that if you do not provide young people with a full spectrum of information on how to protect themselves against pregnancy and STIs if they are already having sex, you are putting them in harm's way.

What I said about there being not dedicated federal funding stream for comprehensive sexuality education is 100% true. This administration has WASTED over $1 billion in taxpayer money for abstinence-ONLY programs that are failed and unproven.

Anyone can skew results, create a research study that is not valid or come up with a report to back up their ideology. These top sexual and reproductive health advocacy organizations only purpose is to ensure our young people's health and safety. You don't seem to care though.

Our OWN government's research concluded that abstinence-only programs don't work. You disregard the top academics and scientists in the country all of whom have engaged in or lead research on sex-ed programs in this country; you disregard the Mathematica report conducted by our own government; you disregard the report under Rep. Henry Waxman that concluded that abstinence-only programs studied provided "false and misleading information" and were "flawed."

I'm sorry - I respectfully disagree with your reasoning. I have provided evidence from our government, from the leading scientists and academics in the nation and from top researchers and advocacy organizations. I would love for you to provide information from unbiased sources that are not formed for ideological purposes to back up your ideas.

No one has any problem teaching abstinence as part of a comprehensive sex-ed curriculum. On the other hand, advocates of abstinence-only programs refuse to see what will serve our young people best.

 

Submitted by Amie Newman, RH Reality Check on December 14, 2007 - 9:23pm.

Amie-

How pathetic are we that we're debating about this issue into weekend? I'll respond to you and provide some sources for my claims on Monday...most of my work is at the office. Have a good weekend!

Submitted by Anonymous on December 14, 2007 - 10:39pm.

Amie-

The difference here is 1) philosophic on the educator, and 2) Expectation of the adolescent. You will disagree with me on this, but when you give adolescent's clear, consistent messages that sex before they are ready (whether it is marriage or simply "older") is unacceptable, and then also say to them, but if you are going to have sex, make sure you use a condom etc., you are giving them a mixed message. Why then, would the adolescent opt for abstinence, when birth control works just fine? The point is that comprehensive sex does not ackwnoledge that early sex leads to psychological and emotional trauma. Contraception (especially condoms) have high failure rates, and do not protect against ALL STI's. Comprehensive sex education gives young people a false impression that they are safe if they use contraception...I know what these curriculum's teach. While they do mention abstinence, very little of it teaches abstinence. I have read reviews and content analysis of these programs, and they are heavy on contraception and sexuality, and light on why NOT to have sex.

Regarding funding for comprehensive sex, see the following study: http://www.house.gov/hensarling/rsc/doc/Abstinence4.PDF

This gives a detailed breakdown analysis of how much funding exists for pregnancy prevention programs that resemble comprehensive sex. And by the way, these programs are not required to show evaluation results that liberals such as Rep. Henry Waxman demand...by the way, you shouldn't cite someone like Waxman as a credible source...he is incredibly biased against abstinence education. His reports and others like him have been debunked:

http://www.medinstitute.org/includes/downloads/Santellirevised.pdf

Finally, even authors such as Kirby admit that abstinence education needs to be given more time to prove itself. As time passes, more and more studies have been released that list credible abstinence evaluations with successful behavior outcomes:

http://www.abstinenceassociation.org/docs/NAEA_Abstinence_Works_041207.pdf

There you have it. I have listed unbiased research from peer-reviewed sources, as well as studies from the government and professional and medical experts. Although i'm sure you will dismiss my arguments, it's important for you to know that there are multiple evaluations of success stories for abstinence education. By the way, I don't deny that some comprehensive programs have been shown to work, I just believe they put teens in harm's way by not seeking to protect them against all STDs and emotional/psychological harm.

Submitted by Anonymous on December 17, 2007 - 10:56am.

Thanks for the respectful debate!!

There is an inherent philosophical difference in our perspectives. I clearly believe that providing more information and education only serves young people better. To me the idea that providing young people with: information about their bodies, how their bodies, work, what sex is, how to protect ones' body against disease and infection, how to protect against pregnancy do not necessarily push young people to do something they are not ready for. Information and knowledge allow them to make the best decisions they can. Providing young people with the feeling that adults are willing to discuss sex and healthy sexuality, that they can talk about their feelings and thoughts without embarrassment, providing young people with opportunity, with a sense of confidence in themselves, with a sense of self-esteem will help them to make the best decisions for themselves. The absence of information does just the opposite - it keeps these subjects in the dark, making sex and sexuality seems scary, wrong and embarrassing at any age.

It always amazed me, when I gave presentations to high-schoolers, what they did and didn't know. Those who believe that abstinence-only programs are viable really should spend time with young people. I never met a young person who had NO idea what birth control was, what contraception was, what sex was - most times they had absolutely incorrect, pathetically wrong information but never NO information. So what are you trying to hide from youth? The truth! They hear about sex, their bodies, contraception, sexuality everywhere and for our schools, our leadership to think that hiding facts and knowledge from our young people in an effort to get them to just deny their sexuality and the way their bodies work is in denial. This is what abstinence-only programs do. They say: trust us, you're not read for this information. And then where and when do they learn it? In college? If they decide to, I suppose. What about the millions that don't attend college? Do we hope that they educate themselves? Do they learn it from an ill-informed friend? Where do those who advocate for abstinence-only programs propose that Americans learn about healthy sexuality?

Comprehensive sexuality education does not have to send "mixed messages" though, I agree, if some programs do not do a thorough job of educating they are not worthwhile as the report states. Comprehensive sexuality education should include a range of information and facts for our young people. The fact is the entire U.S. culture has an incredibly unhealthy relationship to sex - we promote it endlessly through television, magazines, movies, and music - using sex to sell everything from young girls' dolls (Bratz dolls?!) to perfume - and yet we balk at teaching young people about healthy sexuality?

We need only to look at our rising teen birth rates to see that what we're doing isn't working. I agree, we must change more than just our sexuality education but it's a tremendous start in the right direction.

Thanks again for the respectful dialogue!

Submitted by Amie Newman, RH Reality Check on December 17, 2007 - 5:38pm.

Amie-

I'm afraid we'll never agree on how to get there, but I do agree with many of the points you have made. For me, sexuality and education on sex really starts at home. From day one we as parents should be teaching our children what their body is, how it works, and what to do and not do with it. I believe this is the ideal place to educate our children. The sad truth, however, is that the vast majority of parents do not do this. So it really comes down, for me, to the breakdown of the family...I support programs that promote healthy marriage and fatherhood, because the statistics show that when Dad is in picture, and when both parents are present, children have the best chance of succeeding in life. That's not to say that two moms or two dads can't raise a child either, however, I believe the healthiest way is for a mom and a dad. I don't oppose gay adoption, but I do support strong standards in parenting, and it worries me that most gay men don't commit to each other long term. Lesbians tend to be able to commit more (or at least the research shows this), however, you also have to consider that most gay men don't want to adopt. Anyway, I digress.

You're right, the entire culture is giving young people an unrealistic and unhealthy view of sexuality. I believe that sex education should be primarily at home, and that the schools should emphasize why waiting until marriage and/or older is the way to go.

Submitted by Anonymous on December 18, 2007 - 11:22am.